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didja	#16 28/08/2007 - 09h22 Top
Class : Webmaster (admin) Posts : 1043 Registered on : 09/07/2007 Off line Www	Merci tristan, la liste est mise à jour ! Rémy
Kron	#17 28/08/2007 - 14h43 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 1 Registered on : 28/08/2007 Off line	Hi Community!, Im using the Phillips Toucam Pro (PVC840K). Ive bought it only for freetrack, because the webcam has a high framerate of 60fps. Unfortunately Freetrack allows only 30fps.. but therefor with a resolution of 640x480 ! The webcam is no more available in the shops, only at ebay for circa 40 Euro. It works very well with Freetrack, theres no Jittering in the games like i had before with the cheap camera STV0680. STV0680 (320x240 15fps cheap) Phillips Toucam Pro (PVC840K) (640x480 CCD-Camera! 60fps ca.40Euro) Thanks for Freetrack, Greetings Nils
Kestrel	#18 28/08/2007 - 16h02 Top
Class : Webmaster (admin) Posts : 780 Registered on : 13/07/2007 Off line	Kron @ 28/08/2007 - 16h43 a dit: Unfortunately Freetrack allows only 30fps.. but therefor with a resolution of 640x480 ! Freetrack can handle more than 30fps (uses more cpu, unless the quality is reduced). Kron @ 28/08/2007 - 16h43 a dit: theres no Jittering in the games like i had before What sort of jitters? Jitters while stationary (due to image noise)? Jitters while panning (due to variable frame rate)? Support FreeTrack
McIntosh	#19 28/08/2007 - 18h37 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 18 Registered on : 12/07/2007 Off line	I have 30fps with Microsoft VX-1000. It's work perfectly !
vic256	#20 03/09/2007 - 19h52 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 2 Registered on : 03/09/2007 Off line	Hi all, thanks for a fantastic piece of software! Works perfectly with a Microsoft LifeCam VX-3000, 4xIR LED's without IR filter on the webcam for now. Running @30FPS at 320x240. Price was about $50 but I've seen it as low as $35. Computer is: Above mentioned webcam Biostar 965PT mainboard 2GB RAM Intel E6300 Core 2 Duo (OC'ed to 2.8GHz) Windows Vista Had to use MMX filter as SSE filter would generate massive amount of 'Unexpected Error at address XXXXXXX'. Again, thank you for producing such a cool program and documentation for free!!! Best regards Troels (Denmark) Edited by vic256 on 03/09/2007 at 21h24.
Uther	#21 04/09/2007 - 12h18 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 14 Registered on : 27/08/2007 Off line	Technika TKVGACM1 works well with Freetrack. £10/15 Euros.20 FPS Bought from Tesco's in the UK Edited by Uther on 04/09/2007 at 12h32.
Rask	#22 04/09/2007 - 13h29 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 5 Registered on : 04/09/2007 Off line	Trust Webcam WB-1400T Low Price (12 Euros in Germany) Works great with Freetrack with constant 30 FPS, if you disable the auto-exposure feature of the Camera and i had to use the FreeTrackFilter which one can download here on the website. Tested the Camerra so far with IL-2 and rFactor with an 3-LED Infrared + IR Filter (Photo Negative over the lens as described in the Manual) setup and it works like a charm.
didja	#23 04/09/2007 - 17h44 Top
Class : Webmaster (admin) Posts : 1043 Registered on : 09/07/2007 Off line Www	The topic is up to date as the same time as the presentation ! Rémy
luca	#24 07/09/2007 - 01h18 Top
Class : Habitué Posts : 54 Registered on : 03/09/2007 Off line	Philips Toucam Pro 2 is not for sale anymore, but u can find it used in ebay or somewhere else. Original cost 80€ circa (Used, between 40 and 50€ circa) resolution from 160x120 to 1280x1024 60fps @ 320x240 30fps @ 640x480 15fps @ 1280x1024 compression method i420 and IYUV (no RGB) Even whit autoexposure checked this webcam gives always 30-32 fps constant. When setted to 60fps with autoexposure, maintains always 60-61fps constantly!! Best webcam ever tried Minimized Freetrack CPU Usage @ 30fps(IYUV) --- from 2% to 8% Minimized Freetrack CPU Usage @ 30fps(i420) --- from 2% to 4% Minimized Freetrack CPU Usage @ 60fps(IYUV) --- from 10% to 17% Minimized Freetrack CPU Usage @ 60fps(i420) --- from 8% to 12% (tracking quality improvement @60fps is pratically not noticeable) optimal work with freetrack! Pc of the test: Athlon 64+3200 Venice - 1GB Ram DDR 400 Kingstone - Geforce 6600 256mb - HD Maxtor 80GB 7200rpm - Win XP sp1 Edited by luca on 07/09/2007 at 02h08. Stay FREE
luca	#25 07/09/2007 - 01h53 Top
Class : Habitué Posts : 54 Registered on : 03/09/2007 Off line	Creative Webcam Live! for sale but substituted by newer model Original cost 40€ resolution from 160x120 to 640x480 30fps @ 160x120 30fps @ 320x240 15fps @ 640x480 compression method i420 and RGB Minimized Freetrack CPU Usage @ 30fps(RGB) --- from 5% to 14% Minimized Freetrack CPU Usage @ 30fps(i420) --- from 2% to 5% with autoexposure gives 24fps @320x240 Sometimes in 320x240 with manual and low exposure, Webcam Live! randomly gives only 26-28fps (restoring the antiflickering returns to 30fps). Works well with Freetrack Pc of the test: Notebool Acer Ferrari 4000 - Turion64+2800 - 1GB Ram DDR 400 - RadeonX700 128mb - HD 200GB 7200rpm - Win XP sp2 Edited by luca on 07/09/2007 at 02h09. Stay FREE
Firefox115	#26 08/09/2007 - 10h46 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 8 Registered on : 05/09/2007 Off line	Tust WB 1400 T vs Logitech Quickcam Express. Hi all, I've tested these two cams with FT 2.0 and this is my experience: - TRUST: about 14 € -> 26 fps average - IR MODDED - very good responsiveness - drivers can save settings ( VERY USEFULL !! ). Some jitters during image panning within X-Plane, just a little bit smoother with FS2004 ( PPJoy emulation ). - LOGITECH: about 20 € -> 30-31 fps average - NO IR MODDED - not so good responsiveness as Trust - drivers DO NOT save settings ( everytime reset to default...). Some jitters during image panning within X-Plane, just a little bit smoother with FS2004 ( PPJoy emulation ) -> so no difference between Trust. IMHO, these cams are a good starting point for FreeTrack, maybe Trust WB1400T has a better value for the money. This is my hardware: -AMD Athlon 64 3800+ -2Gb DDR RAM -NVidia GeForce 7600 GT - 256 Mb VRAM. -USB 2.0 Bye ! Edited by Firefox115 on 08/09/2007 at 10h50.
tristan68	#27 08/09/2007 - 11h20 Top
Class : Electronicien en chef Posts : 651 Registered on : 10/07/2007 Off line	Logitech Quickcam Messenger Prix : environ 15 euros Reponse Freetrack : 30 FPS / bon fonctionnement avec freetrack. Remarques : - possibilité d'installer seulement le driver, sans tous les logociels associés (bien !!!) - angle de vision un peu étroit, donc conviendra plutôt aux personnes ayant un peu reculé leur écran. - Le driver logitech remet en route à chaque lancement le réglage d'exposition automatique. - Très facile à modifier IR (on devisse le boîtier, le support de protection du capteur cmos et on déclipse le filtre IR, de plus , on peut tout de suite mettre le filtre photo ou radio à cet endroit). Logitech Quickcam Messenger Price : around 15 euros Freetrack use : 30 FPS / good response Remarks : - the quickcam driver allows to install only driver, without bundled software (good thing) - the webcam view angle is a bit narrow (IMO), so you'll have to put it somewhat farther of the head, to have a correct working field (ok) - the driver switches to autoexposure each time you start the cam (not good) - Very easy to mod for IR only mode : unscrew case, unscrew piece of plastic housing around the cmos chip, pop out IR filter set in plastic housing, install piece of photographic film or radiographic sheet in same place, screw plastic housing, screw case, Done !! Edited by tristan68 on 08/09/2007 at 12h47.
staylo	#28 09/09/2007 - 21h34 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 8 Registered on : 31/08/2007 Off line	VIMICRO 301 - Cheapest webcam around? COST -As low as £6 GBP (9EUR) including P&P on eBay PERFORMANCE -28fps @ 320x240 on manual exposure setting 1 (minimum) -Very good field of view - enough to allow for a lot of horizontal translation. -RGB24 only. MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED -No IR filter is fitted, so just need to add a photo negative. Lens easily removed (screw fit) to attach negative on inside of lens if desired. ISSUES -Adjusting camera settings in Freetrack causes Freetrack to freeze on my PC. Adjusting camera settings in packaged application 'Amcap' works perfectly (done once per boot, takes 5 seconds!) OTHER NOTES -Has 6x IR LEDs fitted, controlled by a photoresistor through a hole in the top of the camera - tape over this hole and the LEDs are always on! -I don't have any very reflective tape, but using white electrical tape I was able to get the tape to appear noticably brighter than my head at 50cm distance only at the best angle... I think it should work with good tape, but I cannot say for sure. TEST RESULTS: Tested with setup: 3 LED Clip (SFH485P LEDs @ ~ 80mA) Tested in Orbiter, Aces High 2, Condor Soaring Simulator. With exposure set to minimum there is no detectable lag, no stuttering* and all movements are tracked extremely smoothly and reliably. *Orbiter required setting to 'Low' priority to prevent stuttering, but I think this is related to the program & not the camera. SETTINGS (for use with bright LEDs): First time: ------------- Run 'AMCAP' (Included with webcam software) and click Options -> Video Capture Filter. Set settings as in this image Click 'Save' (top right button) and close AMCAP. Then start Freetrack Every other time (after reboot): ------------- Run 'AMCAP' (Included with webcam software) and click Options -> Video Capture Filter. Click 'Restore' - settings should automatically be the same as above. Close AMCAP, start Freetrack. Edited by staylo on 11/09/2007 at 07h26.
Kestrel	#29 10/09/2007 - 02h34 Top
Class : Webmaster (admin) Posts : 780 Registered on : 13/07/2007 Off line	Nice post staylo. Support FreeTrack
didja	#30 10/09/2007 - 17h47 Top
Class : Webmaster (admin) Posts : 1043 Registered on : 09/07/2007 Off line Www	Great ! Do you agree I copy this post in his own topic for more "viewablity" (is it english ? ) ? Rémy